Musings about the world around me, the world I create in my mind, and the world I am escaping to in a game.

Has it ever occured to anyone that, over the course of history, humans often come to the conclusion that anything that cannot be explained at the moment is automatically considered to be supernatural? For example, the Greeks. They had a god for just about anything that they could not explain with their means of science or technology at the time. How else could they explain the torrent of fire and molten lava that spwes out of a volcano? By claiming that Hephasteus is simply working in his forge of course.

But fast forward to today. And we know that isn't the case. The advent of computers, automobiles, airplanes, etc etc etc, would simply astound the Ancient Greeks. They would consider us gods. They would be unable to speak out of pure awe.

And since science is never ending in the sense that, with each question answered, more questions are formed... we still do not have a logical explanation for God. That being that supposedly judges us from afar, and moves through us all.

Think about it though... what if we just haven't reached the technological threshold to explain it yet?

It could be possible, that "God" is nothing more than a wave that interacts with our matter. Influencing our decisions with maybe electrical impulses or something similar. Religion is making "god" more important than it really is. With the advent of more powerful technology, we may be able to see what it is that moves through us all. More than likely, it is just another force of nature. It justs exists. It is there, always has been. But it is not a being, it is not something to worship... it is just not something we can understand. YET.

Basically, what I am trying to say is, we humans have proven over time that with the advent of better technology we can understand the ways of nature around us. So what's to stop us from unlocking the secrets of the universe? As well as explaining what "god" really is? We just can't comprehend it yet... but we will in time I think. Just like we did with volcanoes, oceans, telephones, airplanes, etc etc etc.

Religion is powerful in many ways no doubt. It helps certain people get through rough times, and to them, it explains the way things are as well giving them a code of ethics that they can follow. But religion is also on a way ticket to being obsolete. If science can bridge the gap between the two, what now?

Now just so everyone knows, I am not trying to attack anyones beliefs, I am merely wondering outloud if the above could be the case. I would also like to hear what other people have to say. Please be open-minded, and rational.

I will explain in better detail some ideas that I have heard as well some of my own if a great dialogue can be established.


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on Jan 29, 2012

AlLanMandragoran
Assume much? Instead of asking why I would skip your posts, you assume I'm Christian and then proceed to insult all Christians.
Why do you need someone to ask you why you didn't do something or is it just too difficult to read or maybe we should take you at your word ... until you change your mind again, whatever.
AlLanMandragoran
Not worth my time to even look at
Personally, I am not overly interested in your refusal to read or why, especially considering you already told us the answer silly. And as to assuming you to be a Christian … you are the only one to brig that excuse into play. I recommend a little self-awareness myself is all.

 

on Jan 29, 2012

Retracted. @Boobz, I retreat, you win! lol

on Jan 29, 2012

One point I would say has been proven loud and clear in this latest "discussion":   that there can be atheist religious zealots, just like any other religion  (and atheism IS a religion--in the same way zero is a number).   People whose anger and dogma exceeds their IQ.  Christianity, Islam, etc....they by no means have a monopoly on religious extremists.

on Jan 29, 2012

tetleytea
in this latest "discussion": that there can be atheist religious zealots

There certainly can be if the atheist practices a specific religion. Some do some don't. Ones who don't might be zealous, or a political zealot if what they are doing is pushing a political agenda or issue. Do you know what if any religion the atheists in this thread are practicing? I have seen nothing in this discussion indicating that any of the atheists are practicing any specific religion. I know plenty of Christians who are also atheists. If they were zealous how would I define them?

on Jan 29, 2012

AlLanMandragoran
Assume much? Instead of asking why I would skip your posts, you assume I'm Christian and then proceed to insult all Christians.
Why do you need someone to ask you why you didn't do something or is it just too difficult to read or maybe we should take you at your word ... until you change your mind again, whatever.
AlLanMandragoran
Not worth my time to even look at
Personally, I am not overly interested in your refusal to read or why, especially considering you already told us the answer silly. And as to assuming you to be a Christian … you are the only one to brig that excuse into play. I recommend a little self-awareness myself is all.

SivCorp
SivCorp
I originally thought you might actually bring something to the table here but I can see now I was wrong. No matter, just more civilized blathering or so it seems to me. I think people are aware of what a hijacking is and it is obvious that this is not occurring. I may be big on my 'hahaha' (just too tough to ignore huh) but you are about as condescending as most Christians are. And it is apparent that the only childishness you are capable of understanding is secular ‘folly’ … but the religious folk have the way of it with all their proof and facts to back them up … hahaha … get real. “Let's hear some personal theories and experiences,” … right … if you need a theory I can point out many good books on the subject, but I cannot make you read, understand or accept them in any manner … besides unless they are theologically spot on (hahaha), you won’t have much use for them anyway. So, just what secular experiences of mine are you interested in, you having being vague in scope. This seems productive to you somehow?

 

on Jan 29, 2012

Do you know what if any religion the atheists in this thread are practicing?

Atheism.  This is not rocket science.

 

I know plenty of Christians who are also atheists.

I doubt it.

 

on Jan 29, 2012

tetleytea
and atheism IS a religion--in the same way zero is a number
The only book I found that list atheism as a 'religion' is in the Catholic encyclopedia which of course  I never look at use. If atheism is some religion ... hahaha ... then not collecting stamps would be considered a hobby ... like zero is a number huh, is there any reason not to find this quite humorous, hehehe.

AlLanMandragoran
AlLanMandragoran
I haven't won anything because I am not trying to. The only point to make here is you just gave up ... and that is self-defeat and has nothing to do with me. All most people have to do is make their own arguments and present their own facts instead of using everyone else’s statements as a base ... but Christians are just not big on facts because they just get in the way of conducting BAU. You never did say if you were actually a Christian but you got Irate when you thought that is what we thought be it true or not ... SO...

 

on Jan 29, 2012

tetleytea
Atheism. This is not rocket science.

You're right it isn't. The definition is only a few mouse clicks away. Which makes me wonder why it appears to be "rocket science" to you.

tetleytea
I doubt it.

Doubt all you want. You don't have to take my word for anything. Once again just a few clicks away is plenty of information about Atheists who practice Christianity.

on Jan 29, 2012

tetleytea
I doubt it
tetleytea
Atheism. This is not rocket science.
It just doesn't accomplish anything when you make ridiculous statements that you obviously cannot defend, instead you refuse to answer even a question or two. Is there any doubt why you rant about stuff instead of explaining yourself? And when we try to answer your questions it usually turns out you refuse to believe us anyway. This shit just makes communications impossible which seems to be where  the Christian communities like to exist ... pointless flux with no real answers ... just WAG's

on Jan 29, 2012

Let's see...atheism is the belief there is no god.   How can you believe in Jesus when you believe there is no god?   That is patently absurd.   OMG the IQ of this thread is a few notches below that of a toaster.

on Jan 29, 2012

tetleytea
Let's see...atheism is the belief there is no god. How can you believe in Jesus when you believe there is no god? That is patently absurd.
Finally ...  well done. He cannot at least the way you see things. Are you capable of NOT insulting people or are you just giddy about appearing ignorant. You try to make this sound like you are clueless on the base arguments against Christianity ... so you just skip them, hahaha ... the sign of a higher IQ alright for sure.

on Jan 29, 2012

tetleytea
Let's see...atheism is the belief there is no god. How can you believe in Jesus when you believe there is no god? That is patently absurd. OMG the IQ of this thread is a few notches below that of a toaster.

Here are some good Wikipedia links for those who actually might be interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

I am certain Thomas Jefferson had an IQ well above that of a toaster as well as the teabag he used to enjoy a beverage with his toast.

 

 

Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.

on Jan 29, 2012

BoobzTwo
Segment A: You believe in God but cannot prove His existence now or ever in any real sense.

 

That can be used right back at you. You can't disprove his existence either.

on Jan 29, 2012

No need to share your "new & enlightened" definitions of atheism.  Everybody knows what atheism is.   People have long known that long before the internet ever existed.   Although I'm sure there is probably a new religion out there composed of younger folk who believe the internet is God and always existed, before the beginning of Time.   They might be a pair of them knocking on your door soon.

on Jan 29, 2012

tetleytea
They might be a pair of them knocking on your door soon.

The ones who have come knocking at my door so far have been "believers". The Christian Atheists I know are often sitting in the pews of well established Churches, including the same churches that belong to what some here have called the only true Christian Church.

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