Musings about the world around me, the world I create in my mind, and the world I am escaping to in a game.

Has it ever occured to anyone that, over the course of history, humans often come to the conclusion that anything that cannot be explained at the moment is automatically considered to be supernatural? For example, the Greeks. They had a god for just about anything that they could not explain with their means of science or technology at the time. How else could they explain the torrent of fire and molten lava that spwes out of a volcano? By claiming that Hephasteus is simply working in his forge of course.

But fast forward to today. And we know that isn't the case. The advent of computers, automobiles, airplanes, etc etc etc, would simply astound the Ancient Greeks. They would consider us gods. They would be unable to speak out of pure awe.

And since science is never ending in the sense that, with each question answered, more questions are formed... we still do not have a logical explanation for God. That being that supposedly judges us from afar, and moves through us all.

Think about it though... what if we just haven't reached the technological threshold to explain it yet?

It could be possible, that "God" is nothing more than a wave that interacts with our matter. Influencing our decisions with maybe electrical impulses or something similar. Religion is making "god" more important than it really is. With the advent of more powerful technology, we may be able to see what it is that moves through us all. More than likely, it is just another force of nature. It justs exists. It is there, always has been. But it is not a being, it is not something to worship... it is just not something we can understand. YET.

Basically, what I am trying to say is, we humans have proven over time that with the advent of better technology we can understand the ways of nature around us. So what's to stop us from unlocking the secrets of the universe? As well as explaining what "god" really is? We just can't comprehend it yet... but we will in time I think. Just like we did with volcanoes, oceans, telephones, airplanes, etc etc etc.

Religion is powerful in many ways no doubt. It helps certain people get through rough times, and to them, it explains the way things are as well giving them a code of ethics that they can follow. But religion is also on a way ticket to being obsolete. If science can bridge the gap between the two, what now?

Now just so everyone knows, I am not trying to attack anyones beliefs, I am merely wondering outloud if the above could be the case. I would also like to hear what other people have to say. Please be open-minded, and rational.

I will explain in better detail some ideas that I have heard as well some of my own if a great dialogue can be established.


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on May 05, 2009

Folks, lula is beyond reasoning. Why waste your time on pointless arguments?

on May 05, 2009

Frustration.

I don't expect to make any impact in what Lula's saying, but I feel better, at least. Of course, I'm speaking from my one whole response.

on May 05, 2009

and arguing is a waste of time if you actually read my post

on May 05, 2009

I don't expect to make any impact in what Lula's saying, but I feel better, at least. Of course, I'm speaking from my one whole response.

I read you.

We are not doing this for her benefit (she doesn't learn), we are doing it for ours.

If you have something to say, I'll listen and appreciate it.

 

on May 05, 2009

Star Adder
Folks, lula is beyond reasoning. Why waste your time on pointless arguments?

Personally, I find that some people seem to think that the sort of perspective that she has is shared by all Christians. My point is to share a less radical perspective. And like the other two said, it might not get through to her, but it makes me feel better to know that I said it anyways.

on May 05, 2009

FUNNY STORY!!

I posted a few days ago....but this girl had a crush on me.  Then she saw Atheist on my Facebook profile (creeper hehe).  She was trying to convert for the last two days and it didn't work. 

So she gave me ulitmatum.  We can never be "something more" since you don't believe in God.

Talk about reverse religious persecution!!!

HAHA, I find it funny that she's that obessed with God, that her feelings for God are stronger than her feelings for love...no wonder she's never had a boyfriend before

on May 05, 2009

Then be happy that you didn't develop any deeper feelings for her. A girl with such a limited mindset is a waste of time and effort.

On the other hand, when I was much younger,  I had a sadly short relationship with a female protestant priest. She didn't care about me being an atheist at all, and never tried to baptise me. When we started to get intimate I said:"Wait a sec, don't people like you just have sex for procreation?" And she asked me in which century I'd be living.

Then I had the most amazing sex of my life with her. Man, she showed my some kinky stuff...!

So not all religous people are so limited.

 

on May 05, 2009

FUNNY STORY!!

I posted a few days ago....but this girl had a crush on me.  Then she saw Atheist on my Facebook profile (creeper hehe).  She was trying to convert for the last two days and it didn't work. 

So she gave me ulitmatum.  We can never be "something more" since you don't believe in God.

Talk about reverse religious persecution!!!

HAHA, I find it funny that she's that obsessed with God, that her feelings for God are stronger than her feelings for love...no wonder she's never had a boyfriend before

And what's the problem there?

Some people have an idea of what they want in life and from a relationship.

She doesn't seem more "obsessed" with G-d than you seem to be about atheism. (I mean, seriously, who puts "atheism" in a profile? Atheists do not generally all follow the same tradition. The knowledge is simply not helpful.)

And if she has never had a boyfriend before because she knows what she wants, more power to her! I hope she finds the man she wants.

(You think that was "reverse religious persecution"? I want to live in your world.)

 

on May 05, 2009

Then be happy that you didn't develop any deeper feelings for her. A girl with such a limited mindset is a waste of time and effort.

On the contrary, I think it is likely that she would be worth a lot of time and effort. She doesn't sound easy.

 

On the other hand, when I was much younger,  I had a sadly short relationship with a female protestant priest. She didn't care about me being an atheist at all, and never tried to baptise me. When we started to get intimate I said:"Wait a sec, don't people like you just have sex for procreation?" And she asked me in which century I'd be living.

Protestants don't have priests. You should have talked with her too.

I don't believe the rest of the story either.

 

on May 05, 2009

On the other hand, when I was much younger, I had a sadly short relationship with a female protestant priest. She didn't care about me being an atheist at all, and never tried to baptise me. When we started to get intimate I said:"Wait a sec, don't people like you just have sex for procreation?" And she asked me in which century I'd be living.

Then I had the most amazing sex of my life with her. Man, she showed my some kinky stuff...!

So not all religous people are so limited.

HAHA....oh yeah I have not a problem with religion, I just don't practice is having a Lutheran mom and Jewish dad doesn't exactly form the best religious views...

And what's the problem there?

You'd understand what I meant if you read the whole AIM conversation...but that'd be creepy if I uploaded on here so I won't haha.

And I am a weird Atheist...i know atheist is a board range of beliefs and whatnot....I go to church with my mom, celebrate christian/catholic holidays...i went on a religious retreat while being an atheist (with that girl), I also attend a catholic college.

See I'm a weird Atheist

on May 05, 2009

You'd understand what I meant if you read the whole AIM conversation...but that'd be creepy if I uploaded on here so I won't haha.

I take it she was a Christian? Jewish girls often wouldn't start a relationship with a non-Jew (although they would with a Jewish atheist), but they are not likely to try to convert people.

 

And I am a weird Atheist...i know atheist is a board range of beliefs and whatnot....I go to church with my mom, celebrate christian/catholic holidays...i went on a religious retreat while being an atheist (with that girl), I also attend a catholic college.

Atheism is a belief. Christianity is both a belief and a set of practices. You are a Christian, although not a believer. You follow Christian traditions as most atheists do.

Don't confuse religions with belief systems. (And in the case of Judaism, don't confuse a people with its native religion.)

 

 

 

on May 05, 2009

"Science is man trying to figure out how God does it"~ ParaTed2k's (Not So) Famous Sayings. ;~)

on May 05, 2009

"Science is man trying to figure out how God does it"

My sentiments exactly.

 

 

on May 05, 2009

Star Adder
Folks, lula is beyond reasoning. Why waste your time on pointless arguments?

For me, it's part of a continual learning process of how to reason with unreasonable people.  Someone needs to do it; it's the only way we can progress as a society.

on May 05, 2009

ParaTed2k
"Science is man trying to figure out how God does it"~ ParaTed2k's (Not So) Famous Sayings. ;~)

 

My own opinion:

"God is man trying to ignore how science does it."

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