Same book ... same religion ... call it what you want. There are many of these 'perfect' books available worldwide ... but you chose this one. Incidentally, maybe you missed the numerous mentions of mine that it is the bible itself, that RCC creation, that abomination to the individual that is the source of all this nonsense and hatred. How you personally chose to deal with it is not my concern. My concern is that you are in fact pleading the case that the bible is the word of god ... you just look at it differently ... personally. Which part of the bible do you wish me to disprove for you ... or does everything therein have to be disproved before Christians even begin to consider rethinking things a little more realistically? Or is it as it seems … it doesn’t matter if anything within is true … because you guys have the ‘faith’ and that is all that is really important???

Besides an individual with peculiar religious beliefs I don’t have a clue ... so you will have to tell me what you are. I just don’t look at people with instant hatred because of their beliefs or personal habits ... that is just surface stuff ... but that is more than enough for the Christians walking amongst us to practice their intolerance and their self-hate for the rest of humanity.

How about you just pick?   Pick the part of the Bible you wish to disprove, and disprove it.

Where to start ... sure wish I had the wherewithal to undertake such a foolish endeavor ... but I don't. You must have mistaken me for someone who cares about god or his/your book. Sorry ... because the whole book is bogus as it is foundationally wanting and void of proof and even common sense. So I don't care for one part any more than another. Why don't you instead explain why you feel you have the moral authority to pick and choose ... that was the real question?

Why are you still here talking shit. Just go away Boobz.

Hahaha ... the actions and attitude of a troll ... hehehe.

... exactly.

You haven't heard? I don't troll; I goblin.

 

Well first, you said you don't care.   So that pretty much leaves us at an impasse.   And yet somehow you seem to care enough to post on this thread...(???).  Second, I don't recall ever saying I had or didn't have the moral authority to do anything at all; for that matter, I specifically asked you to pick and choose on everyone else's behalf.   And third, who is foundationally devoid of proof here?   I asked to you disprove any part of the Bible--any part.  You said you didn't care enough to bother.   That makes it in fact you who is devoid of proof, does it not?

For a thread titled "Science and God...", your hate-filled posts devoid of any facts sure seem a bit out of place.

 

Any science book from the 1600's work for you?

Remember when the world was flat?  oh, right.... its science.

 

 

Sorry, just had to put that out there

You simply say whatever? Or have you seen other sources of information that shows whether the rest is true or false? There is very little if anything in science where acceptance relies on the information found in a single text. Take away the Bible and show me where the evidence lies to prove that Jesus of Nazareth was revealing the word of God or that he was anything more than just a mortal man? Ill even give you the benefit of the doubt that he existed.

I'll bet hahaha, butttt ... it wasn't our fault if it is actually in those late books. I am sure that the scientific community knew better ... but the Christians were in charge of education ... whewwww, that was close.

tetleytea: That is pretty vague on your part don’t you think. What is it that I don’t “care about” did you miss it … or did you just forget? Besides, what does my not caring have to do with your thoughts or posts? What in the world has changed because of my lack of consideration for magic … besides your attitude?

You have an interesting way to try and shift the focus … so do I. You jump into a conversation with someone else and then make a jest of a request, yea that is religion alright. In #923, you made it clear what you think of science. Had you made it clear you wanted some mystical answer … you might not have been shone the “Body Farm” which you ignored instead of clarifying.

I don’t think we can have this conversation either but for different reasons. You are too metaphysical and philosophical for my tastes? I have a saying somewhere humm … “Philosophy is made up of questions that may never be answered … but religion is made up of answers that may never be questioned” … two perfect bedfellows.

Ya'll are aware a whole lot of the science you are so fond of was done by Christian's right?  The only "us" and "them" is in people's minds.

People are people.  We got smart ones and stupid ones just like everyone else.

• Harvard--named after a minister.
• Yale--originally a Puritan school and started by clergy.
• Princeton--Presbyterian.

Just to throw out some examples.  The Catholic church--like it or not--is greatly responsible for preserving scientific knowledge through the Dark Ages.

I'm sure if you scour through the worlds Christian ranks you can find ignorant and superstitious people from tribal region's and elsewhere--but that doesn't make everyone professing to be a Christian "ignorant and superstitious".  Constantly stating it's so is just an attempt at a whitewash and a dodge from having a real discussion.

In Christianity, God is the eternal being that created and preserves the universe.

God is most often conceived of as the supernatural creator and overseer of the universe.

The supernatural (Latin: super, supra "above" + natura "nature") is that which is not subject to the laws of nature

Superstition is a belief in supernatural causality

 

As a christian do you not believe that God is the creator and overseer of the universe?

 

 

 

You might want to reconsider this statement some, just a suggestion. Well ... thanks for helping, we need all the help we can get to fill in more historical puzzle pieces. But what does that have to do with the cost of tea in China? David, your insecurity is obvious. None of this has to do with how smart we think we are or the name of the schools we went to. It has to do with our understanding of the world we live in today based only on what we can glean for ourselves. On face value … what were our options? What would you have mankind do with itself … twiddle their thumbs while you guys try to memorize the bible? And you know I will not be scouring through any list of Christians … are we expected to do all your work for you hahaha?

Smoothseas ... I hope you understand where this is going to go next, hahaha.

It's not going anywhere.  It isn't a discussion.  It's been a soapbox for egos that never were here to discuss anything--just to make their proclamations and a little private club for the enlightened two who think they have it over and everyone else who's posted.

Basically, you co-opted the thread and made it your own private chat.  Enjoy telling each other how smart you are.  I'm sure you'll feel better.

There will always be believers and non-believers. Never only one. Debating will not change this. All you change is the number on each side.