Mule?  They are infertile?  You can't use an infertile organism as argument.  They can't breed and its a dead end.

Also human can't be used as example.  Humans came in very late and is drasticlly different from the rest of organisms.

I cannot. That is why we have science, and those who study it. They can. A quick google search will find you some.

Lets see here... The first result to come up for evolution was the wikipedia page. On that, there is a section titled speciation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution#Speciation 
Paragraph 2: "Speciation has been observed multiple times under both controlled laboratory conditions and in nature." Also note the large number of citations associated with the section.

Tell me, what is it that makes a magic species barrier which cannot be crossed by DNA mutations? Keep in mind, mutations are able to misplace pairs, add pairs, and subtract pairs.

Woah mate! If I insulted you I'm sorry! I'm not sure what a BS is 'cause i'm not familiar with that way of education, but i'm just going by what I've learnt and what I believe

I think that there is life out there...as to whether we would be able to communicate with them is quite simple if we could be able to make a transmitter that could transmit (would you imagine that...) millions of billions of lightyears, we would be able to communitcate with them. We could send a mathmatical equation that any sentient life form with any sense of knowledge would be able to decipher. In that equation we could say that "Hello. We, the humans sentient beings on the planet Earth (give coordinates) seek to have peace with your people. We hope that you could learn from us, and that we could learn from you. All we want is for you to meet with us and converse with each other. We hope you will come in peace, just as surely we will come in peace. Earth out."

We don't really have to give the coordinates to out planet, just in case they are like the Vasari, and are planetary jailers. Reply if you want to have a debate on wether there are Sentient Beings out there...

P.S Somewhere in the Bible, there is something about God having made other people, and that they haven't sinned and are watching the outcome of the Battle between Heaven...and Satan. And that these people aren't made in the likeness of God like we are. Just something for you guys to ponder about.

Yeah and you can cross breed different dogs and get even more dogs.  You can genetically engineer a new specie using technology.  The problem is genetic engineering doesn't occur naturally.

I am not insulted.  Its my fault to come on a game forum and discuss this kind of things instead of classmates from similar fields.

the problem with this topic is, well...nobody knows. aliens will most likely be just as suprised as we are when they find us or we find them. also everbody automatically thinks aliens will be more advanced than us. not true. obviously the finder has more advanced travel but maybe they never thought of war? maybe they never thought of territories or religion or trade? not every existing organism is going to know everything. we could be extremely low tech in weaponary compared to aliens, but might be extremely good at travel. 

on the topic of colonizable planets... any planet is colonizable..... with proper technology. someday most likely out of our lifetimes we may be able to colonize the sun. if we were to colonize a planet humans there would evolve to fit the needs of that planet, so even humans could be vastly different from eachother. 

i believe there is other life, not necessarily "intelligent" but it exists or has existed. consider this - light only travels so fast, so what we see of far away planets is actually the past. it could be 10,000 years before we see a planet blow up due to alien war after it actually happened, so we could be seeing their planets long before they would be visible from such distances. i also am christian so i believe God created everything about 6000 years ago or so, and though he never mentioned any other life, the bible is a story about earth not the universe.

now im going to exterminate the advent once and for all while you argue about something that will never effect you.

I highly doubt that we will be able to colonize the sun...its just to hot, even with extremely high tech heat sheilds i doubt if we would be able to. And i also doubt the aliens haven't thought of religion, territories, and especially trade...trade is the life-line of many cultures... they probably would have thought of war, but i really dont know, so im not going to go into that subject. I do agree with you Splintert about with proper technology we would be able to populate most planets. And i also agree with you about "Light traveling so fast..." that is extremely true. it would be quite a while before we woudl know if an alien race blew the shit out of a planet for some reason... and it would be quite a while to see if they populate a planet that we have seen because then we would have to wait for the light to come to us so we can know about it. And yes, i too am a Christian (i like to think that i am, but who among us is truely a Christian?) and i believe that God created the Earth 6,000 years ago. I also believe with you that all these people have, while they have put up some good argurments and were also really funny... these people have waisted their time...i'm probably going to get alot of frak from that sentence...

so many different views , the best part is that people argue about the "probability" of life on other planets , 20 dollars on that god made earth and it can't happen by accident .

so if theres intelligent life out there god made that to , and thats actually more probably then your random number scramblings

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As i have already said they have proven evolution using DNA. And you cant discredit the fossile record which shows the gradual progression of species changing into other species.

Reading about somebody else's opinion is one thing - finding your own is a whole different bowl of deductions.

PHDs here, some of it in computer science, others in Finance. Your education system may differ but what we get here in our Universities is patent pending potentials & job perspectives by corporate recruitment of the best & worst. I worked, plenty.

That doesn't make me any less capable of seeing evolution as a process by mutations that CREATES species from any given microcosm though. And that, you can quote a few scientists for - which is widespread on the virtual encyclopedic common knowledge of humanity - online. I had to flip lots of paper pages.

Life outside Earth isn't only possible from unproven facts, it is a probability that goes beyond whomever discovers it first in our historical times. Future being the initial condition for that to happen.

Presently, i suspect we a have a vague idea of where or how to look for *it*. Unless some ignorant groups are dumb enough to hide truth and lie for some weird reasons such as politics & religions -- both plurals, btw.

Please explain how they prove evolution by DNA.  I have read that as an argument in undergrad.  I also saw a program that argued against evolution using DNA.

There is no gradual progression of fossils that I am aware of.  Can you show it to me.  If there are, it will be strong evidence.

 Someone should rip your degree to shreds.  How do you reproduce and observe something that takes millions of years when you live for barely 100 yourself?  The evidence is in fossils and not a freaking movie.  All you have to do is look what segragation of species does.  How one species can become two over a long period of time simply when seperated by say a large mass of water seperating the continants.  Death and natural selection is more important than the transformation from one species to another...because that part doesn't just happen over night.  Everyone that has even half a brain working knows that the simplest explanation that works is most likely the right one.  Is there a super being sitting there going " Oh look,  that bird needs a new beak for the new type of food in the environment,  give a few a new beak Jebus...but dad...what about the rest?  ...F damn son!  I don't have all day to give out beaks!"....or...A few birds had a stronger beak allowing them to survive while the weaker beaks get to die out as they can not break to the food as easily.

Some people make it seem as if evolution is simply one species going "poof" and turnning into another.  This is false,  evolution has many factors that contribute change.  Everthing from climate to death and segragation to genetic mutation...damn I can make a rhyme out of this! sweet.

their stepping stones would most likely be nothing like ours as you can't even barely guess to what their enviornment would be like.  You can claim it makes us human all you want,  I say it makes us stupid...however I don't speak for myself here so I don't like this word "us"

He meant BS for Bull shit.  I would bet money he has no degree.  I wouldn't hire him for nothing.  He has a lack of understanding in evolution and mostly the logic behind it.  There is no such thing as watching a species evolve into another because it is constantly happening ALL THE TIME slowly and gradually.  Deseases pick of the weak and you already have the same species but a new immune system.  Evolution has so many little precise details that if left out the skeptics who know nothing but just the broad definition of it sound silly and stupid talking about it.  I don't mind offending him,  he sounds like an idiot just from a few posts.  I love all these people claiming to have all these degrees.  A first grade biology science teacher would waste him in a logical argument on evolution so don't pay any mind to what he claims.